Latter Day Struggles

400: Most People Don't Want a Religion that Transforms Them

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Series Title: The Two Functions of Formal Religion [Part II of III]

In this second episode of their series tackling the two functions of formal religion,  Valerie and Nathan explore why most religions *think* they are offering true vertical development but are only offering safety, comfort, and belonging, especially because that is all that most people are ready for.  

Since most people don't want a religion that gives them more than safety, comfort, and belonging, the most important task of anyone on a higher developmental path is to support those around them in earlier stages so that they can outgrow these early needs too and become open to more depth and breadth in their spiritual journey.  

 The bottom line: We help others evolve by allowing them to be just where they are.  Listen in to see how this relates to your own life.  


Books referenced: "One Taste" by Ken Wilbur


Timestamps:

00:00 – Introduction and Greetings

04:15 – Embracing Ambiguity and Anxiety

07:00 – Wilber’s Perspective on Minority Transformation

11:00 – Accidental Transformation Through Disillusionment

16:45 – Getting Stuck in Horizontal Movement

20:30 – The Container Analogy

24:39 – Order and Chaos in Spiritual Growth

26:24 – The Ladder Analogy: Stability and Chaos

29:13 – The Call to Authenticity and Transformation

33:30 – The Allegory of the Cave and Spiritual Growth

39:00 – The Dangers of Forcing Transformation

41:00 – Planting Seeds for Future Growth

46:08 – Encouraging Broader Perspectives

48:00 – Hallmarks of Higher Consciousness

50:00 – Fear vs. Love in Parenting and Guidance

52:00 – Trusting the Process of Growth

54:00 – Offering Breadcrumbs, Not Prescriptions

55:39 – Final Thoughts on Transformation

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