394: Exploring Mormonism's Immortality Projects Parts 1-4

In this audiobook style 4-part series, Val  & Nathan explore how human beings manage anxiety and search for meaning and immortality through external systems of belief, identity, and worthiness. 

They examine how well-intentioned spiritual structures become substitutes for an already-present sense of wholeness and connection to God. 

Through personal stories, scripture, and cross-tradition insights, Val’s & Nathan’s conversations reveal why these ego-driven pursuits are both inevitable and ultimately insufficient. 

The series invites listeners into a gentler awakening—one that releases the false self while honoring the growth that comes from the journey itself. 

Timestamps:

00:00 – Introduction and Excitement for the Series

03:30 – The Cycle of Forgetting and Remembering Divinity

07:14 – Exploring the Concept of God Consciousness

15:59 – The False Self and the Ego

24:00 – The Double Bind of Awakening

32:00 – Substitutes for True Wholeness

39:59 – Transcend and Include Philosophy

43:03 – Introduction to the Four-Part Series

48:40 – Introduction to Aeros and Thanatos

50:56 – Misguided Aeros Energy

54:00 – The Cycle of Birth, Death, and Resurrection

59:00 – The Climber, the Ladder, and the View

01:01:30 – Examples of Translation and Transformation

01:06:00 – The Realization of Innate Wholeness

01:15:00 – The Civil War Within: Ego vs. True Self

01:27:07 – Upcoming Topics and Series Overview

01:37:32 – The Pharaohs' Quest for Immortality

01:41:00 – The Role of Legacy and Lineage

01:45:00 – The Anxiety of Being Remembered

01:53:05 – Mormonism's Unique Atman Project

02:10:00 – The Struggle with Dualism and Worthiness

02:30:00 – The Illusion of Having Arrived

02:36:18 – The Mormon Atman Project

02:36:46 – Exploring the Eternal Family Concept

02:39:24 – Challenges and Failures of the Atman Project

02:40:48 – Transcending Rules and Embracing Relationships

02:45:00 – The Value of Ritual and Tradition

02:50:38 – Reevaluating Exaltation and Hierarchies

02:55:00 – The Problem with Power and Gender Hierarchies

02:58:35 – Rethinking Christ and the Atonement

03:04:00 – The Role of Sin and Mistakes in Growth

03:09:11 – The Path to True Atman

03:15:00 – The Importance of Grace and Patience

03:20:00 – The Promise of Wholeness and Non-Dual Awareness

03:24:02 – Final Thoughts on Consciousness and Wholeness